Eomer
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Post by Eomer on Jan 4, 2008 5:09:45 GMT
Why are you sticking them in threes? Just get the shielsman and then put a spear behind them then you can make your battle line bigger and maybe even stop there flanks if it's gone all the way across the board.
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Ryuzaki
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Post by Ryuzaki on Jan 4, 2008 20:50:56 GMT
when the get split apart i happen to have two more spearmen than sheildsmen so 2 or 3, rarely 1
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Red Corsairs
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Post by Red Corsairs on Jan 12, 2008 7:01:49 GMT
To be honest for goblins if you have shieldsmen and spearmen I would line them up like this: G = Shieldsmen S = Spearmen C = Goblin Captain (Or other goblin hero. e.g. durburz/shaman) GGGGGCGGGGG S SSSSS SSS SS Sorry about the terrible display of that but basically theres 10 Goblin shieldsmen with a captain etc. at the front row. Then theres 11 Goblin spearsmen behind them backing them up. You can put as many or as few of them as you like in the battleline. Also you can then do things like put the Balrog to the sides of them, A drum behind them, and two cave trolls infront of them (for example)
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Post by lotrchampion on Jan 12, 2008 18:29:19 GMT
It is worth pointing out here some history regarding the traditional phalanx formation in ancient warfare: The Phalanx was the primary formation for most Ancient armies (e.g. Persians, Greeks, early Romans etc.) up until the creation of the military system used by the late Roman Republic, the typical Roman Legions. These were far more mobile than the Phalanx, could reform better, and also made use of maniples to constantly keep fresh troops at the front lines. This meant that the phalanx slowly faded out of use. Application of this in LotR? You have Elves, all elite warriors with a higher FV than almost ANY army that can form Phalanx. As yet, you have no cavalry, so again, similar to the early Romans. Therefore, when going head on against a Phalanx, use your own extra supporting units, the Spearmen, in support of warriors with HW+Shield, to immobilise the front of the Phalanx. Meanwhile, you are then free to enclose the sides of the Phalanx with other troops-you don't even need to have the whole of the front of the Phalanx engaged to pull this off, only the ends which could turn round easily to aid their partners. Lap around the sides, forcing them to pull out of formation to get to you with the central models of the Phalanx. Then with your Reserve elves, counter attack these, and bring those on the sides inwards, enveloping the Phalanx, but with far less models than most armies need to do this! To engage a 3 by 10 phalanx of Easterlings, for example, you would could counter this easily with 4 Elves w/ HW+shield, 2 at each end of the front of the Phalanx, 4 with Spears supporting them, a further 6 with HW+Shield/Elven Blades (either way, your choice), 3 to lap round each side, and then a further 8 (split HW+Shield/Elven Blade) for the counter attack. 22 models to absolutely kick the living daylights out of the phalanx, and thats probably overkill as well. Oh, and if you have a very hard hero, e.g. Gil-galad, Glorfindel, have him ready for the counter attack as well, that would be devestating. Oh, and of course the cheap, dirty but exceedingly effective tactic of running Elrond and his bodyguard up and casting Nature's wrath, knocking the whole formation to the ground!
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Post by megabunny on Aug 25, 2008 18:25:21 GMT
There are a few ways to deal with phalanxes 1 hit them hard on sides 2 Cast natures wrath or sorcerous blast 3 use your archers to hit back roes as they are uasually weaker holding pikes no sheilds 4 form ur men into a ^ spearhead eg V-urs ............. .............his phalanxes ............. V-urs V -his to counter urs
Using any of theese works for me
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Post by bringerofchaos on Aug 26, 2008 21:52:37 GMT
i have the joy of going after the objectives and not giving a care about the enemy because they won't be able to win half the time
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